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Poster: Jeff Kaplan Date: Sep 21, 2018 9:24pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

a couple of suggestions:
1. send a url of examples so we can see what you are referring to
2. narrow your search queries to get better results.

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Poster: ChrisJBrady Date: Sep 22, 2018 6:28am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

Ok - thank you.

I search for "bbc radio 4 extra"

https://archive.org/search.php?query=bbc%20radio%204%20extra

I get listings displaying audio wave forms.

I click on one, e.g.

Radio Active : BBC Radio 4 Extra : August 11, 2016 08:30AM-09:00AM BST

https://archive.org/details/BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active

This displays a message:

There Is No Preview Available For This Item

This item does not appear to have any files that can be experienced on Archive.org. Please download files in this item to interact with them on your computer.
Show all files

I click on [Show all files]

https://archive.org/download/BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active

This then displays

Files for BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active

Files marked with lock are not available for download.

Name Last modified Size Status
Go to parent directory
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.afpk 11-Aug-2016 08:05 332.2K lock
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.asr.js 16-Aug-2016 07:00 268.5K lock
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.asr.srt 16-Aug-2016 07:00 33.4K lock
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.mp3 11-Aug-2016 08:00 27.5M lock
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.ogg 11-Aug-2016 08:02 19.0M lock
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.png 11-Aug-2016 08:04 11.4K lock
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_files.xml 18-Sep-2018 22:00 4.0K
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_meta.sqlite 11-Aug-2016 08:00 12.0K
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_meta.xml 18-Sep-2018 22:00 66.9K
BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_spectrogram.png 11-Aug-2016 08:04 240.0K lock
__ia_thumb.jpg 18-Sep-2018 22:00 2.7K lock

Most of which have a 'lock' symbol.

I cannot access any of the files. And this situation is repeated thousands of times.

These unavailable entries are cluttering up all searches.

Why are the there if no-one can access them.

CJB

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Poster: Jeff Kaplan Date: Sep 23, 2018 2:30pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

https://archive.org/details/BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active plays fine for me. maybe try a different browser.

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Poster: ChrisJBrady Date: Sep 24, 2018 6:43am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

Most of the files at that link are marked with a padlock icon with the statement "Files marked with [padlock] are not available for download."

I am using the latest Chrome and Firefox browsers and Win 10. This but one of thousands of uploads that are 'locked.'

What browser are you using and what os. And does your profile have special privileges for downloading such mp3s?

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Poster: Jeff Kaplan Date: Sep 24, 2018 11:41am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

yes, i see now they are access restricted. they are legitimate items with data but are not yet publicly accessible.

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Poster: ChrisJBrady Date: Sep 24, 2018 1:54pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

So how come you can play them and I cannot? Whatever - these thousands of uploads are swamping search results. If they are not supposed to be accessible why are they there in the first place? They need to be filtered from search results and/or hidden. CJB.

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Poster: Jeff Kaplan Date: Sep 24, 2018 3:52pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

because as you speculated, i am an archive admin.

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Poster: ChrisJBrady Date: Sep 24, 2018 11:10pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

So why are these thousands of unavailable uploads allowed to swamp search results? They make the Archive unfriendly and searching a damned waste of time. I need to escalate this issue. CJB

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Poster: MPDMedia Date: Oct 13, 2018 11:26am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

Files are probably locked due to copyright issues, especially if you're in the U.S.. Only a few older (pre-1960) BBC programs have been allowed on IA for Americans to hear. Episodes of the Goon Show, Larks, Men From the Ministry, and a few panel shows have disappeared from Old Time Radio.

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Poster: ChrisJBrady Date: Oct 14, 2018 12:59am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

I'm in the UK. The issue is that when a search is done these uploads swamp the results. They are a waste of space - literally on the servers - since no-one can actually play or download the files. Why are they there?

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Poster: MPDMedia Date: Oct 17, 2018 11:41am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Unplayable Uploads

I'm seeing a lot of poorly-transcribed 'transcripts' of the programs, such as "Charlotte Bronte - The Professor : BBC Radio 4 Extra : August 12, 2016 02:30PM-02:45PM BST". Maybe that's why they're still up, as some sort of ersatz cultural exchange. Regardless, they're still under copyright in the UK and US, unless it falls under the same legal domain as the one-minute excerpts and transcripts of international news programs currently in the television news section, Newswatch, i.e.:. https://archive.org/details/BBCNEWS_20180511_184500_Newswatch